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    How Many Have Moved From Treo?

    I'm curious about how many here haved moved from the Treo to the PPC-660x. I have been using Palm devices/phones for years and have decided to move to the PPC world since Palm is still putting out expensive devices with 32 meg of memory and tiny screens (Treo 650).

    How many here have made the move to a PPC phone such as the PPC-660x? What are things you like about the PPC phone vs. the Treo? What does the PPC phone do better or worse? My guess is that it is far superior with multi-media. I also will guess that it doesn't have the serious memroy issues like the Treo 650. I am considering a move to the PPC-6600 when it is released but need some to compare some of the features to the Treo to make sure it is the best decision.

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    I have. Multimedia, better integration with outlook (Word/Excel), larger screen are the main reasons.

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    me too....Pretty much the same answers as above.
    I have enough trouble overcoming my own limitations without fretting over the fact that God hasn't seen fit to distribute evenly the gift of intelligence.

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    I will be moving to the 6600 when Sprint releases it, for all of the above reasons, plus I think the Pocket PC OS is far advanced over the Palm OS 5.x. OS 6 is suposed to be closer, but no one knows when it will be on any device and by the time it does, it might be too late for PalmSource (and maybe Palm1 unless they move to the PPC OS).
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    I was a Treo600 user until the 6601. I was deciding between the 6601 and the 650, and when the initial reports of teh 650 were so underwhelming, I decided to jump to the 6601, and I've been very happy with the unit since...

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    I think battery life is the Achilles heel of the 6601. In contrast, the Treo 650 achieves 2-3 times the battery life of the competition, according to today's InfoSync World review.

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    That's true, but it's not a problem for me, as my 6601 sits in the charge most of the day, and then comes with me on errands and appointments and such. I doubt I'll ever drop below 50% on a daily basis...

    When I travel, I almost always have my laptop with me, and I'll charge the phone through the USB sync cable...

    I agree, if you will be days away from your charger or laptop, the 6601 battery will be an issue...

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    I ditched a Treo 600 in favor of the 6601 even after playing with the 650 for a while. The PPC is just such a better and more robust platform that the Palm OS in my opinion. I found the 600 and the 650 not to be of particularly good quality. I'll never go back to Palm, an OS out of the 80's (not counting version 6, if it ever sees the light of day).

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    I was a Treo 300 user for two years plus, and was just about to order a 650 when -- almost by chance -- I came across descriptions ofthe 6100. I figured it was worth an audition, and after a week or so of use I'm pretty sure I'll be keeping it. I'm not a heavy, heavy phone user, so the PDA emphasis of the 6100 isn't too much of a concern, and battery life -- while not optimum -- is becoming less of a worry than I thought it might, now that my usage patterns are becoming clear. I certainly prefer the web browsing and general OS integration of the PPC to the Treo family, though in fairness I haven't yet been able to lay my hands on a 650.

    Now, if I could only solve my general home networking frustrations, all would be right with the world...



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    I went through a long process of weighing out staying with the Treo line with the 650 or jumping over to the 660x......as those over at TreoCentral can vouch for with having to wade through all my posts on the subject(s).

    What made the decision final to get the 6601 was that :

    1. I needed more that 22 mb of useable mem.
    2. Since I go into a lot of digital roaming areas with work, Wifi.
    3. Larger screen to make is easier for spreadsheets.
    4. Voice Command, even as an addon.

    I think that along the way I made quite a few converts of the 660x over in TreoCentral as well.
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    Originally posted by Iceman
    I think battery life is the Achilles heel of the 6601. In contrast, the Treo 650 achieves 2-3 times the battery life of the competition, according to today's InfoSync World review.
    My battery was sucking dry like made when I first got it, but then I made just two changes and it made a big difference....

    1--I changed my Business Connections to Smart Syncing, instead of checking every 15 minutes no matter what.

    2--Changed my Pocket Express update syncing to every 6 hours.

    The point is, check what program use Vision, reduce them down to bare minimun while still making you productive and it will go a LOOOONNNGGG way to saving you a couple extra hours of battery life.
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    Originally posted by andyadler
    I was a Treo 300 user for two years plus, and was just about to order a 650 when -- almost by chance -- I came across descriptions ofthe 6100. I figured it was worth an audition, and after a week or so of use I'm pretty sure I'll be keeping it. I'm not a heavy, heavy phone user, so the PDA emphasis of the 6100 isn't too much of a concern, and battery life -- while not optimum -- is becoming less of a worry than I thought it might, now that my usage patterns are becoming clear. I certainly prefer the web browsing and general OS integration of the PPC to the Treo family, though in fairness I haven't yet been able to lay my hands on a 650.

    Now, if I could only solve my general home networking frustrations, all would be right with the world...



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    What home networking problems are you having?
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    Help a former Treo600 user please...

    Hey All,

    I'm also a recent Treo600 convert. After hearing of all the 650 problems, and needing a change I just got my 6601 from Sprint. Cancelled my VC coupon offer for the $350 Treo650 and I'm back on the PPC side for a while.

    I've had the T-Mobile XDA in the past as well as a Treo270, Palm VII, Omnisky, Ipaq/Modem card, etc. So I bounce back and forth between Palm/MS with no real allegience either way.

    I think they both have their pluses and minuses. My needs are much more PDA than phone, and love to tinker with wireless gadgets.

    The Treo was fantastic one handed and I'm trying to get myself comfortable back over in PPC land in that respect. I have two questions for now:

    HobbesIsReal :
    How do you set up Sprint BC to "Smart Sync" I couldn't find that option anywhere - in fact since they leverage "Inbox" on the PPC, I can't find any of the options we had on the 600 like amount to store (only 25 messages?), alerts, sync intervals, etc. Am I missing some configuration option screen?


    Second Question:
    I'm looking for a multi-button app. I had OneButton+ on the Palm which let me "scroll" through multiple apps until I hit the one I wanted. I could have multiple apps per button. Anything like that for PPC? I tried "MortButtons" but honestly couldn't figure it out.

    Anyway, good luck to all with the new toys, I'm back to lurking.

    -bostonGuy

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    I've been a die-hard Palm user since 1997 but I just sent this email to a friend:
    Prepare for a shock!

    I’m thinking about getting a MS Smartphone from VZW for Christmas. Although I LOVE my Treo 600 , EV-DO is coming out and the only Smartphone VZW is offering for it right now is the ppc660x. I might try it out while I wait for them to offer the next Treo which supports EV-DO. I noticed that most of the Palm programs I depend on have PPC equivalents but I’m not too fond of spending an estimated $150. Oh well.

    Since you’ve been living on the Dark Side for a long time, I figured you’d appreciate this. Misery loves company.

    http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=570&gi=2

    I confess that I don’t like the looks of it. However, it doesn’t look too much different from my Treo 600 with the keyboard and the Treo doesn’t distract people in business meetings. I think it is because of the Blackberries that so many people have now. If the thing is equally innocuous, it might work out. If not, I’ll either return it or put it up on eBay.

    The cool thing about VZW is that they have a program called Wireless Sync which lets your Smartphone work like a Blackberry. It also takes all of your PIM data, corporate Email, and stores it on their secure sever. You can then take any supported device and sync up. That means that when I get the new Smartphone, all I have to do is this:

    1. Install the all of the software that comes with the device.
    2. Download the Wireless Sync software from VZW
    3. Sync up all of my data!

    It is very cool. I know it works because when my Treo 600 dies – I just go back to my Kyocera 7135 while I wait for them to send a replacement. It just takes an hour or so to get everything in place. I store and run most of my programs on a SD card so I can just pop my SD card from device to device.

    I suppose I can do the same thing when the PPC6600 dies – except for not running the programs off of the same SD card. Fortunately, the thing supports SD cards....
    He congratulated me for finally "seeing the light"

    It really bothers me to leave Palm but the Treo 650 **as it is today** is not impressing me. I've returned my Treo 600 twice in 4 months so it is hard to grow an attachment.

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    Et tu, Beryl?

    The really sad thing is that I am thinking about switching to the PPC-6600, too.

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    Re: Help a former Treo600 user please...

    Originally posted by bostonGuy
    HobbesIsReal :
    How do you set up Sprint BC to "Smart Sync" I couldn't find that option anywhere - in fact since they leverage "Inbox" on the PPC, I can't find any of the options we had on the 600 like amount to store (only 25 messages?), alerts, sync intervals, etc. Am I missing some configuration option screen?
    Easy...Start Menu...Programs....PCS Business Connections. Now click on each tab and you can choose how many to download and how to sync.

    If you don't see it there, then you may still need to install BC. You can do that be clicking on the BC option on the start page and follow the prompts.
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    Originally posted by Beryl
    The cool thing about VZW is that they have a program called Wireless Sync which lets your Smartphone work like a Blackberry. It also takes all of your PIM data, corporate Email, and stores it on their secure sever. You can then take any supported device and sync up.
    I wish Sprint would get a clue and get away from the mandatory Desktop client, as I use a laptop and the desktop client doesn't work very well with the laptop in the bag next to me.

    They do offer co-worker sharing though, which is kind of cool. That way you can invite up to 4 co-workers to allow you to use their BC connection if yours is not loaded.

    The VZW option is obviously superior.

    This is what Dataviz InBoxToGo did for me!!!! Kept the emails on their server with no desktop client. Is there any other 3rd party option out there like IBTG for the PPC??????? I REALLY NEED A SERVICE LIKE THIS!!!! But I am in a contract with Sprint so I can't jump ship.
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    Thanks Hobbes,

    Not ten minutes after my post i found the BC Config Icon. I was trying to do it in the Inbox program. All set for now on that one.

    But now as I was saying...how to get more "one handedness" in our new tech toy?

    Thanks,

    bostonGuy

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    ME 3

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    I am very disappointed by the reports I am hearing over on TreoCentral, even though there is a great deal of pro 650 sentiment. Those who recognize me will understand how burned out I feel at the moment, having tried to rally the troops to get PalmOne to pay attention to us, and having been mildly to moderately flamed for the effort.

    I will attempt to get a 6601 on a demo basis. Everyone's assessment over here is pretty encouraging. We'll see....

    I have such a bitter taste in my mouth over the 650 in particular, and PalmOne and its rather vocal supporters in general, that I'm not sure I will ever purchase another Palm OS device again. Again, we'll see....

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