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    any way to play online real money poker on 6600

    anyone know
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    until the poker sites develop software, options are limited. The biggest problem I see is connectivity and security. The games would suffer with constant connection issues between ten players.

    One possibility would be to use a remote desktop or "gotomypc.com". This might work.

    I am interested in this as well. Hopefully something will be out soon.
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    yeah but a remote control desktop would suck because you'd end up having to scroll all over the place the whole game because you'd never be able to see the entire table clearly. blah
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    Sure, there are lots of ways. Many sites support it.

    HOWEVER, only a complete idiot would play on any of them. They are all offshore, and have no verifiable guarantee of fair odds.

    So... it seems like the odds distribution is right, until you change your betting strategy. These are what we call "Big Red Flags" against betting.

    Spend your money in a casino, or if you're truly an addict, at your local horse track -- not online gaming.

    Ehud

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    im talking about poker ehud, not craps, blackjack etc
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    You're under some impression that online poker is different than "craps, blackjack, etc?"

    Please, do elucidate. I'm just beside myself trying to figure out how you're going to suggest that online poker gambling has honest odds. No no, really. I'm holding my breath.

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    Actually I have played 100 of hours of online poker as well as live poker and have won in both. The house has no reason to be dishonest in online poker because they get there money if you win or loose. It is a multi billion dollar buisness when they are honest and the cometition is so steep now in the idustry that if a site was dishonest it would have no players. Think before you speak. And yes soon i hope to play it on my xv6600
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    Yeah, think before you speak.

    "The house has no reason to be dishonest".... Smoke less crack.

    "They get there[sic] money if you win or [sic]loose." Smoke less crack.

    "It is a multi billion dollar buisness[sic]" right.

    "...the cometition[sic] is so steep now in the idustry[sic]"

    Oh please.

    The odds and the gaming online show a deviation from normal odds.

    You can argue about it, but facts are facts. Online gaming means your chances of winning are less than the representative odds of the same game in a regulated casino.

    "Think before you speak".
    Take your own advice, meathead.

    "And yes soon I[sic] hope to play it on my xv6600[sic]"

    I hope you do too. Run out of money, and come back and tell us all about it to discourage other idiots.

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    Originally posted by Ehud
    Yeah, think before you speak.

    "The house has no reason to be dishonest".... Smoke less crack.

    "They get there[sic] money if you win or [sic]loose." Smoke less crack.

    "It is a multi billion dollar buisness[sic]" right.

    "...the cometition[sic] is so steep now in the idustry[sic]"

    Oh please.

    The odds and the gaming online show a deviation from normal odds.

    You can argue about it, but facts are facts. Online gaming means your chances of winning are less than the representative odds of the same game in a regulated casino.

    "Think before you speak".
    Take your own advice, meathead.

    "And yes soon I[sic] hope to play it on my xv6600[sic]"

    I hope you do too. Run out of money, and come back and tell us all about it to discourage other idiots.

    Ehud
    Whoa, dude...
    I've read a lot of your posts and have respected what you've had to say. In fact, I've regarded you as the know-it-all for the information I've sought by doing searches on the forum.

    However, one this one, you've really crossed the line.

    It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to poker. Poker is a game between player vs. other players. Not player vs. house. In gambling, there's a saying that says, "The house always wins." In poker, this is true...to some extent.

    With 10 poker players sitting at a table, they all contribute bets to a common pot that one person wins at the end. In a live game, a percentage of the pot is taken out and goes to the house. The is called the "rake." In just about every hand, the house is making anywhere between 10 cents to $7, depending on the limits, rules, and houses you play at. Again, the rake is a percentage of the pot, hence the variance in how much is taken out. Usually, there is a cap on the rake. "The house takes 10% up to $5."

    What is the reason for the rake? Well, it's a small cost players pay to the house for having an organized, well-structured, game. It's also a security measure. The house, in effect, makes sure games run smoothly and SAFELY.

    Now, knowing that there is a rake, no matter who wins, what reason is there for the house to show favoritism towards one player or another? If I win a hand, the house gets $3. If you win a hand, the house gets $3. No matter what, the house is getting paid.

    How much is a site like PartyPoker.com making by holding fair games? One just one table, every hour, anywhere around 60 hands can be dealt. Let's say that the rake averages about $2. In one hour, the house will make $120 in rake. As I log in right now, this gaming site is offering 3,499 tables. Let's be extremely fair and say only 1,500 are real money tables. If we've established one table can make $120 an hour in rake, then 1,500 tables is bringing in $180,000 every single hour. No matter who wins or who loses, the site is making $180,000 an hour.

    Based on this fact, what would the site gain by cheating certain players??? The games are fair, and the cards are shown to be random. Sure, when you lose a hand after being a 95% favorite, you feel cheated, but you also realize that a 95% favorite can still lose 5% of the time...

    I've got the data on my hard drive, of my own hands that I've played, showing their win percentages, money won, lost, etc. My data numbers match up with what "the books" say they should be at. With so many online poker sites available, and with it so easy to make money just by being fair, what incentive is there to cheat? If the sites cheats you, people will find out, and everyone will leave to other sites, leaving the cheating site with zero players, and zero rake. Would sacrificing $180,000 an hour be worth the risk for any company to try and cheat??

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    another thing i like about online poker, aside from the lack of a house advantage, is how long your money lasts for. The place I play at has .75 + .25 (for the house) tourneys that lst nearly an hour if you make it to the top 3. The longest I've played on a dollar at a casino would be maybe 5 minutes if i was really lucky.
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    With online poker, it is the people you have to worry about, not the house or the programming.
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    I agree with almost all of what Kaaveh had to say earlier. On a personal note, I have played poker in person for a very long time and online for about the last 3 years. Over the last 36 months I have played online I have won a decent amount. I normally play cash games like no-limit and pot limit omaha hi/lo. I also do tournaments, up until last week my biggest single prize for first place in a multitable tourny was $8,900. On Sunday I won a 10k seat in the WSOP (World Series Of Poker) in July. So, I am not worried about sites cheating me, I am more concerned about players colluding (sharing information about hands, etc).

    Oh yeah, I would love to be able to play using only the 6600.

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    Originally posted by i500
    I agree with almost all of what Kaaveh had to say earlier. On a personal note, I have played poker in person for a very long time and online for about the last 3 years. Over the last 36 months I have played online I have won a decent amount. I normally play cash games like no-limit and pot limit omaha hi/lo. I also do tournaments, up until last week my biggest single prize for first place in a multitable tourny was $8,900. On Sunday I won a 10k seat in the WSOP (World Series Of Poker) in July. So, I am not worried about sites cheating me, I am more concerned about players colluding (sharing information about hands, etc).

    Oh yeah, I would love to be able to play using only the 6600.
    WOW! Congrats on your WSOP placement! I wish I had enough money to play in the bigger games.. Hope you do well!

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    how much was the buy-in for the tourney that won you the seat in the wsop? thats tight man
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    Congrats on winning a seat.

    Now as to what I said:
    Have you confirmed that all of the "players" you've played with are "real people"?

    If you have, let me know, and I will withdraw my warnings.

    If you haven't... feel free to consider how the odds are affected when the "house" is able to add in "players" and their "cards" that don't meet standard odds of distribution.

    This has little to do with whether or not I know what I'm talking about wrt normal PPC postings...

    However, you stick with what you want to say, and I'll stick with what I've said. If you still think online gaming is foolproof, you have a nice day.

    Ehud

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    PokerRoom.com has a JAVA client but I haven't tried it on a PPC yet.

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    "owned"

    Haha....lmao....totally owned, lame attempt to save face not withstanding.

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    Originally posted by jcsickz
    how much was the buy-in for the tourney that won you the seat in the wsop? thats tight man
    I won a $60 single table satellite which got me a seat at $500 tournament. When I won that one I got the WSOP seat.

    BTW, I know for a fact that there are players using bots to play online but they are easy to spot and if you can't beat the bots you shouldn't be playing. Like I said before, the real threat is real players sharing hand information in ring games not tournaments.

    I use poker snitch on my 6600 to calculate odds and run simulations. I also tried out a few poker games on the PPC. They are decent limit poker practice games but I haven't found any good no limit games on the PPC.

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    Originally posted by Ehud
    Congrats on winning a seat.

    Now as to what I said:
    Have you confirmed that all of the "players" you've played with are "real people"?

    If you have, let me know, and I will withdraw my warnings.

    If you haven't... feel free to consider how the odds are affected when the "house" is able to add in "players" and their "cards" that don't meet standard odds of distribution.

    This has little to do with whether or not I know what I'm talking about wrt normal PPC postings...

    However, you stick with what you want to say, and I'll stick with what I've said. If you still think online gaming is foolproof, you have a nice day.

    Ehud
    Some smaller sites do "add in" players...how do I know? I was one such player.

    We're either called props or shills. We're utilized to keep games full. We have no access to what cards may or may not be coming. We're just paid to play there...that's all.

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