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    Camera Wars

    So I've been shooting with Nikon gear forever, and am about to make a move to Canon. I figured I'd say it here in public because since most of the folks here aren't photo-geeks, I hopefully won't be shunned and banished to some remote desert punishment area.

    If there is a photo-geek on board... I'm ditching the Nikon D2H for a Canon 1DMk2... and all the other lenses and bodies will follow suit. The biggest reason is low light noise and trying to minimize the time it takes to process the photos. Thanks to Ebay, and good timing, I should be able to do the move with minimal lost dollars. I've been using Nikon 35mm since 1985 I think. So after 20 years, its time for a switch I guess.
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    I take it that camera is better than the XV6600?

    I've always liked Canon. I've had a Rebel since 2000 and absolutely love it. I have had 2 digital cameras since, and my wife will only use the Rebel. Should have bought the digital rebel instead of my last digital Fuji, but $1000 bucks and the size scared me away...
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    Is that a zoom lens in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?

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    The new Digital Rebel XT is much better than the original one, so it would be a good choice. They are so light. The 1DMkII with a 24-70mm lens tips the scales at about 5 pounds... 2 ounces more than my D2H w/ 17-55mm lens. Its quite as pocketable as the XV6600... or PPC6601 as is the case with mine (and mine has no camera). I was told last night a photography seminar that Canon holds 75% of the digital SLR market.
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    Originally posted by MEG
    Is that a zoom lens in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
    Its an internal focus zoom, so it stays the same size at all times, unlike the push-pull zooms that get shorter or longer depending on what focal length you pick..... you did ask.
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    If you are looking for the Canon Digital Rebel XT check out slickdeals.net. They posted a Dell deal about a week ago that had the camera at approx. $800.
    http://www.slickdeals.net/#p5951

    Pricescan has the price around that neighborhood with some so-so vendors. You can also use the prices online and negotiate down PC Richards or J and R if they are anywhere close to you.

    Hope that helps.
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    I'm shopping for a bit more expensive body. Followed through slickdeals and it took me to the site I was already planning to buy it from. $3799 for the 1DMk2 body only. Canon is starting a $500 rebate on it tomorrow, so I sit here like a kid before Christmas, unable to order it until tomorrow.
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    I'm pretty big into photography but only traditional B&W... haven't the time(to invest in learning) or money(to switch all equipment) to go to digital... yet. I've been loyal to Nikon for a long time but have been putting my feelers out into other brands.

    Have fun with your new camera!

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    I've been with Nikon for 20 years. Took a look at Canon when the Rebel first came out but funny... the plastic lens mount turned me off... funny the little things that we react to. I just wish I had analyzed all of this more when I went heavily into digital a year ago. This is the camera I'm currently using...

    <a href="http://collins-home.com/images/lens/d2h-70200vr-tc.jpg"><img src="http://collins-home.com/images/lens/d2h-70200vr-tc.jpg" width="600"></a>

    Shoots like a dream. I've learned so much and improved as a photographer with digital... because I can get feedback immediately. I rarely ever shot manual with film, but I shoot manual 90% of the time with digital. These high end cameras really push you and in some cases aren't that forgiving if you mess up. That's a good thing if you are trying to grow your skills. The thing is that you know going in that you have a tool that can do the job... the rest is up to you... so if you don't get the shot its your fault.

    We just did a big auction fund raiser for our school. Last year the 20 or so live auction items were just done verbally. You could preview them, but you had nothing to look at when the auction was going on. This year I brought the studio lights in and did product shots of everything so they could be projected on a screen during the auction. This was a lot better. I really enjoy that kind of shooting as well, trying to present a product the best you can.
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    Wow, does that thing come with a retractable dome roof?
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    Ha, Ha...

    Nope, but it came with some funny comments during our trip to Disney/Seaworld this week. I had brought my smaller camera to use, and this as a backup. After a couple of days, the smaller one developed a problem and so I used the big guy. One time I forgot to take it off of the fast mode (8 shots a second) and had handed it to a lady to take a family picture for us. She fired off about 6 or 7 shots the first time and yelled out, "Wow, this thing has a happy shutter!".
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    mikey,

    i am looking to get some manual focus lenses for my panasonic dvx 100a (i will be getting an adapter that will allow 35 mm lenses to be used with it) and the manufacturer needs to know what lens mount i want.. so im torn between canon and nikon... what would your recommendation be ? canon or nikon MF lenses...

    anyone else feel free to comment if you have any experience with these lenses...

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    Canon and Nikon both make excellent lenses. There is an adapter that lets Canon users make use of Nikon glass (manual focus of course), and I don't know of anything to go the other way. The general discussion I've heard has been that Nikon is better in optical quality, but we are talking about differences that only a small number of people on the planet might notice. For me, Canon's line is better suited to my work. They have a more fully developed line of prime lenses, and almost all of them are the newer technology with the motor in the lense. Nikon has been much slower in developing this and has fewer choices of primes. One thing you need to be careful with on lenses is that I would guess that not all of them would be compatible. Will you be able to use lenses with the motor in the lens, what about lenses that don't have manual aperature adjustment and depend on the camera setting it? Or, are you talking about buying older manual focus lenses on Ebay or something (which is a good market). Bottom line is both Canon and Nikon are excellent. But, they also vary from lens to lens, and within lenses, from one end to the other. I would suggest identifying the focal lengths you intend to use, and then ask about it that way.
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    yes these will be manual focus lenses i caqn obtain form fleabay or second hand. i am not talking abou the newer whiz bang internal focus self conatined lenses.. so yeah in terms of the old manual focus lenses..

    you and i spoke on this briefly a while back when you were switching cameras, and oif course canon has the market of today.. but im not concerned with that.. im more concerned with lens optics.. as i will he shooting features with this setup and need the better lenses... no matter how small...

    thanks for your input...

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