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    Proclip Vs. Seidio

    What case/holster are you using and why is it a good one?

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    I just got the seido clip for the treo 650.
    http://store.treocentral.com/content...-24--155-2.htm
    Good points:
    1) it looks like its very well made, the proclip looks as is someone made them in their garage.
    2) Its a compact design almost as compact as the proclip.
    3) The swivel dosent add any extra size or weight to the the holster.
    4) The swivel is tough to turn. some swivel locks are so weak i dont know why the call them locks.
    5) It sets very well on the belt not to high or low. Some clips set to high and stick you in the side and some sit to low and bump every thing when you sit.
    6) the side peices that hold the sides of the treo are the same as the proclips so I couldnt imagine how they could damage your phone as some one had reported. I never had any side damage with the proclip.

    The bad:
    1) It is just slightly bulkier than the proclip.
    2) It takes 2 fingers to press the bottom of the seidio down to take the phone out, the proclip is secure but easier to take in and out.
    The bottom part that holds the phone in is alittle over done, I dont know if since the plastic is thicker than proclips does that make it to inflexable, or does the bottom piece just wrap around the phone to far, you almost feel as if your going to break something off of your phone trying to get it in and out of the seidio holster. I thought about warming up the plastic and stretching it out a little. I like the holster and I guess its good for now but I will sell or give it to some one when the proclip comes out.
    Heres the proclip http://store.treocentral.com/content...ularity-58.htm

    heres my seidio clip with an arrow to the over done bottom. I give it one thumb up http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrjame.../ph//my_photos
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    Re: Proclip Vs. Seidio

    Originally posted by jamespaulritter
    I just got the seido clip for the treo 650.
    http://store.treocentral.com/content...-24--155-2.htm
    Good points:
    1) it looks like its very well made, the proclip looks as is someone made them in their garage.
    2) Its a compact design almost as compact as the proclip.
    3) The swivel dosent add any extra size or weight to the the holster.
    4) The swivel is tough to turn. some swivel locks are so weak i dont know why the call them locks.
    5) It sets very well on the belt not to high or low. Some clips set to high and stick you in the side and some sit to low and bump every thing when you sit.
    6) the side peices that hold the sides of the treo are the same as the proclips so I couldnt imagine how they could damage your phone as some one had reported. I never had any side damage with the proclip.

    The bad:
    1) It is just slightly bulkier than the proclip.
    2) It takes 2 fingers to press the bottom of the seidio down to take the phone out, the proclip is secure but easier to take in and out.
    The bottom part that holds the phone in is alittle over done, I dont know if since the plastic is thicker than proclips does that make it to inflexable, or does the bottom piece just wrap around the phone to far, you almost feel as if your going to break something off of your phone trying to get it in and out of the seidio holster. I thought about warming up the plastic and stretching it out a little. I like the holster and I guess its good for now but I will sell or give it to some one when the proclip comes out.
    Heres the proclip http://store.treocentral.com/content...ularity-58.htm

    heres my seidio clip with an arrow to the over done bottom. I give it one thumb up http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrjame.../ph//my_photos
    Hi

    Thank you very much for the feedbacks. We are updating our clip version (the one discussed here) to make it much easier to take Treo in and out.

    Seidio also offers another type of Holster (cradle type) for Treo 650 which is very user friendly. It allows you to take Treo out from the top instead of from the bottom. It is very easy to take Treo in and out and also fully protect Treo 650.


    http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductD...tCode=HLTR650A


    Here is the link reviewed by Treocentral

    http://www.treocentral.com/content/P...et-153-60-.htm


    Thanks again for your inputs.

    David Chang
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    dsc@seidio.com
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    how do you put the treo in that holster?

    I know you put the bottom in first but do you then press the phone against the top of the holster to snap itself in place or do you press the heal of the hand against the top of the holster to allow the room to finish setting the phone in place?

    And to take it out would you cock your hand almost upsidedown to press the top of the holster back with your index finger while sliding the phone out?

    Or swivel the holster almost upside down to press the top of the holster off with the index finger? Or press the heel of the hand against the top of the holster?

    That holster looks alittle bulkier than the one i bought and definitely smaller is better for me, but I notice that it seems to be totaly clear of the sd card so maybe it wont dislodge the card while taking the phone out of the clip. I got so tired of picking my sd card off the ground with the treo 600 after taking it out of my proclip that i ended up tapping it down. This seidio clip, the one i purchased http://store.treocentral.com/content.../4-24--155.htm
    is angled just right at the top to avoid pressing the sd card down far enough to dislodge it. Its a shame about its difficulty. Only slightly difficult putting it in but taking it out is only bearable if there were no other holstrers on the market.
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    Re: Re: Proclip Vs. Seidio

    [QUOTE]Originally posted by seidioseidio
    [B]Hi

    Seidio also offers another type of Holster (cradle type) for Treo 650 which is very user friendly. It allows you to take Treo out from the top instead of from the bottom. It is very easy to take Treo in and out and also fully protect Treo 650.


    How come you guys dont make the cradle type holster for the Treo 600 also?? Give us a break, some of us Verizon customer dont have the 650 yet but we want to protect the 600's we do have.
    Oh... what a tangled web we weave!!

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    have you seen this one? http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductD...tCode=HLTR600A
    Is it along the lines of what your looking for?

    Im checking this one out for myself. http://store.treocentral.com/content.../4-24--154.htm

    Along with the proclip I ordered yesterday. http://www.proclipusa.com/?sectionpa...oryid=&p_year=

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    Small Variety

    I'm rather frustrated with the small variety of styles available.

    No one makes a clip holster that the TREO faces OUTWARD.

    My opinion:
    Facing the TREO inward makes it unusable in the case/holster, other cases with swivel clips stick out off your waist "hi-fivin" corners and armwrests.

    Personally I think most people using a device like this are paranoid about scratching the screen... I've had a Samsung I300, I330, and Treo600.... each of these I've had an outfacing case without incident of scratching the screen. That's over 3 years of use crawling around servers and desktops.

    I would buy another Vaja, but ouch $115 bucks, and it still sitcks out.
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    I have the Seidio 650 as well. If they put the clip HIGHER UP on the phone it would have been (IMO) 100% better. Due to the size and the weight of the phone the clip (actually the phone) tilts forward off the belt due to it's location and center of gravity. Problem is, by doing that, you'd be unable to rotate it.

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    Ya GhengisEEK the problem with the swivel clips is that if the holster is removable from the clip your right the thing extends 2 feet off your hip. I just bought this one http://www.seidioonline.com/PhotoGal...tCode=HLTR650B And even though its a swivel it sits the same as a nonswivel but you cant take it off the clip. This one faces out http://store.treocentral.com/content.../4-24--115.htm but that swivel looks huge. I looked at that vaja heres a link if anyones curious. http://www.1src.com/?m=show&id=646 With proclip for my treo 600 http://store.treocentral.com/content...s/4-24--58.htm I could face my treo in or out. It didnt look perfect facing out but there was nothing wrong with it either. It couldnt fall out. Im not sure if your looking for a clip for 600 or 650. I should get my proclip for the 650 by friday http://www.proclipusa.com/?sectionpa...oryid=&p_year= if you want I'll let you know if the 650 sits well facing out.



    Mistered which clip are you talking about. I think they only have 2 but I was curious. I couldnt picture what you were saying.
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    http://www.seidio.com/documents/Swiv...Treo%20650.pdf

    Originally posted by jamespaulritter
    Mistered which clip are you talking about. I think they only have 2 but I was curious. I couldnt picture what you were saying.

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    so when the phone spins 90 degrees the clip isnt sitting on the holster/phones center of balence ? More of the phone and weight are hanging off to one side?

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    No, I said IF THE CLIP WAS RAISED HIGHER that would be the case. The way it is now, when you rotate it it's just right. I just don't like it when it's vertical because it sits too high (IMO). If you look at Pro-clips version (not rotateable) it LOOKS LIKE the clip sits higher on the holster so more of the phone hangs a bit lower.
    Originally posted by jamespaulritter
    so when the phone spins 90 degrees the clip isnt sitting on the holster/phones center of balence ? More of the phone and weight are hanging off to one side?

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    ya your right thats the problem i have with my seidio clip, so since the clip is centerd on the holster the top of the phone bounces alot and feels like its going to come loose. Clip aside do you like to keep your phone vertical or horizontal?

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    I feel more secure horizontal. I also have a Convertec horizontal case coming in from Treo-Central. That might be a better solution for me because it will allow me to use the eGrips and the case. I also notice REMOVING the 650 from the Seidio holster is not a 1 hand operation as the say. Of course that might just due to be my lack of coordination. I'll probably end up selling the Seidio and keeping the Convertec. I have always been a "covered pouch" fan.
    Originally posted by jamespaulritter
    ya your right thats the problem i have with my seidio clip, so since the clip is centerd on the holster the top of the phone bounces alot and feels like its going to come loose. Clip aside do you like to keep your phone vertical or horizontal?

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    Is the seidio for the 650 better than the one for the 600? I had a friend who had the 600 and said that the phone was prone to getting knocked out. The 650 clip appears to be a bit more secure, is this true?

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    The one i bought is to secure http://store.treocentral.com/content...-24--155-2.htm Its not realy difficult to put the phone in the holster as long as its lined up and you push it in smoothly and alittle quickly. It is however difficult taking it out, you have to press very firmly with 2 fingers on the bottom of the holster to remove it. I dont have any experiance with the seidio for the treo 600. I do have experiance with the proclip for the 600 and its perfect. The proclip for the 650 is now available http://www.proclipusa.com/?sectionpa...oryid=&p_year= . Sorry to keep posting the same links but it would be easy to confuse all the different holsters.

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    Ok, just got the Proclip holster and the Seidio cradle type holsters for the treo 650.

    First the good on the Seidio cradle type:

    1) Dose'nt interfer with egrips (back pieces only).
    2) The top dosent interfer with the sd card (my proclip for my t600 use to dislodge the sd card)
    3) The swivel is tough to turn, thats good. The leather swivel lock holster sold by Sprint should be called a swivel kind-of-lock.
    4) I was pleased the size of the holster is similar to the smallest holsters on the market. On the website they look as if they could be kind of heavy.
    5) You get alittle more protection for your phone using this kind of holster.
    6) It is a one-handed operation putting the phone in the holster.


    The bad:

    1)Clip is to low on holster so top of phone sticks up to high and bounces around.
    2) When swiveled 90 degrees a majority of the phone hangs off to one side completely unbalanced.
    3) The little notches on the inside of the holster tear up egrips (side pieces only), and could catch the sides of a treo right at their seems.
    4) You could only call it a one handed operation taking the phone out of the holster if you didnt mind not having a grip on the phone as you take it out, (to risky for me).


    Its hard to say much about my new treo 650 Proclip, (perfect, perfect,perfect).

    The good:
    1) It adds next to nothing as far as size and weight to the phone.
    2) The phone comes out bottom first which is most comfortable position for the hand an allows you to grip the phone taking it in and out to the holster.
    3) Its an easy one handed operation in or out.
    4) Even though its smaller than all other holsters and the easiest to use when it comes to placing and remove the phone, it still holds the phone securely.
    5) While the phone is in the holster and if you use egrips you can still set you phone down on a slick without it sliding away.
    6) The top of the new 650 proclips are designed to not touch your sd card no matter how hard you push the phone in the holster it wont dislodge your card.
    7) the proclip dosent interfer with the side or back egrips.

    The bad:

    1) The swivel is not a small as Seidios
    2) You cant set the phone in facing out (some one please let me know if my memory is falty but I swear I use to be able to put my treo 600 in the proclip backwards)
    3) It is alarming that you dont seem to need to press the release button with a pen to remove proclips clip from the holster. Its supose to only be removable with a pen but its alittle week. I guess I'll have to super glue mine.


    Heres some pics of my proclip, seidio cradle holster and seidio clip holster.

    http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrjame...bum?.dir=/1280

    So ive got 2 Seidio clips I'll be happy to send to someone free.
    Just click on "profile" in bottom left corner and send me a message.
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    That item (#2) concerns me. It sounds very easy for something to catch the bottom of the phone and flip it out of the clip and onto the floor. Since it comes out from the bottom, that sounds like a possible accident waiting to happen.

    Edit: Looking at your photos the ProClip doesn't look very secure. I gave up on the clips (anyone want to by a Seidio cradle clip?) and went with the Covertec horizontal pouch.HERE . It sits real close to the belt, works with eGrips and isn't affected by my, er, waistline. Only complaint is you have to "lock" the phone so buttons don't get pressed when putting it in the case.





    Originally posted by jamespaulritter
    Its hard to say much about my new treo 650 Proclip, (perfect, perfect,perfect).

    2) The phone comes out bottom first which is most comfortable position for the hand an allows you to grip the phone taking it in and out to the holster.
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    I chase my 3 daughters in the park jumping a good 5 feet of playground equipment, I move furniture on the weekend, I teach aerobics and run Basketball players through personal training all with my treo 600 in its proclip for a year and now my t650 in its pro clip and I have never had it happen or heard of it happening to any one else. p.s. do you know how to get the actual image to show up in the post?

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    You're obviously in better shape then me. It still makes me nervous. I chase my grand-kids around and roll on the floor with them and I've "dropped" my share of "clipped" phones. My final answer was the Convertec horizontal pouch. At least the phone is fully enclosed should it fall off my belt (which will be tested this weekend).
    Originally posted by jamespaulritter
    I chase my 3 daughters in the park jumping a good 5 feet of playground equipment, I move furniture on the weekend, I teach aerobics and run Basketball players through personal training all with my treo 600 in its proclip for a year and now my t650 in its pro clip and I have never had it happen or heard of it happening to any one else. p.s. do you know how to get the actual image to show up in the post?

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    The discussion here is interesting. I also have Proclip holster for Treo 650. I did not like it. It ejects SD card if I remove my Treo 650 from the top.


    I removed Treo 650 by taking out the TOP first. This is the only way that is felt natural for me to use (like my other cellular phone holsters). I did try taking it out from the bottom first, but it felt like it would slip out of my hand and drop to the floor. I do not want my Treo 650 to drop to the floor and get damaged. I was not comfortable with this method at all. I do not understand why Proclip designs the holster this way. I need a holster that allows me to remove my phone from the TOP not from the BOTTM !!

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