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    Free Dial-up for Treo 650 Users to avoid Data Charges

    9/16/05 UPDATE: I looks like users in selected parts of the country are being BILLED for data when using a dial-up connection. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.

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    Well, I've been unable to use any dial-up on my Treo 650, but during my search I've found a Free Dial-Up provider that MIGHT work with your phones. If someone uses this successfully, let us know.

    Here are the details:

    http://www.nocharge.com/

    It is for Seattle and Washington "only", but I've been able to dial in from California and my caller ID does not prevent me from getting a modem tone. If you get the "busy signal" referenced in the web site, you might try blocking your caller ID.

    Access Numbers:
    Aberdeen: (360) 517-1000
    Aberdeen: (360) 517-1111
    Aberdeen: (360) 517-1001
    Aberdeen: (360) 517-1002
    Bainbridge: (206) 312-1000
    Bainbridge: (206) 312-1500
    Bainbridge: (206) 312-2500
    Bainbridge: (206) 312-3700
    Bellevue: (425) 786-1000
    Bellevue: (425) 786-1111
    Bellevue: (425) 786-7777
    Bellevue: (425) 786-5073
    Black Diamond: (360) 469-1000
    Black
    Diamond: (360) 469-1111
    Black
    Diamond: (360) 469-2000
    Black
    Diamond: (360) 469-2222
    Buckley: (360) 641-1000
    Buckley: (360) 641-1111
    Buckley: (360) 641-1001
    Buckley: (360) 641-1002
    Graham: (253) 780-1000
    Graham: (253) 780-1100
    Graham: (253) 780-2000
    Graham: (253) 780-2020
    Hoodsport: (360) 717-1000
    Hoodsport: (360) 717-1111
    Hoodsport: (360) 717-1122
    Hoodsport: (360) 717-1133
    Olympia: (360) 515-3000
    Olympia: (360) 515-3001
    Olympia: (360) 515-3030
    Olympia: (360) 515-3131
    Rochester: (360) 553-1000
    Rochester: (360) 553-1111
    Rochester: (360) 553-1001
    Rochester: (360) 553-1002
    Seattle: (206) 495-1000
    Seattle: (206) 424-1111
    Seattle: (206) 337-5050
    Seattle: (206) 337-5252


    *Login:
    Username: guest
    Password: password

    *Login is the same for everyone.

    Washington DNS Servers:
    Primary: 64.40.40.51
    Secondary: 209.102.96.10

    New England DNS Servers:
    Primary: 216.143.132.20
    Secondary: 216.143.132.21
    Last edited by jcarlosfox; 09-16-2005 at 04:06 PM.

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    WORKS!

    Worked for me!

    I used these settings...

    Login:
    Username: guest
    Password: password

    DNS Servers:
    Primary: 64.40.40.51
    Secondary: 209.102.96.10

    and I dialed this number...

    Seattle: (206) 495-1000

    Connected without a problem!

    I am dialing from Southern California (Irvine).

    Good find jcarlosfox !!!

    Mike

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    Verizon shows me making the call, and NO DATA was used! Nice!

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    Glad it works....

    Now if I could only figure out WHY my phone won't work with any dial-up provider!

    I am wondering if the fact mine won't work may be because I have a newer Treo, and if the ones that are able to call in dial-up have an older phone. Also, I am wondering (worried?) that anyone who goes to the PALM update site and updates the software might see the ability to use dial-up lost again?

    My phone version software is: TREO650-1.01-VZW

    (You can see this by going into the phone section, hitting menu, going to Options, then PhoneInfo.)

    On the other hand, maybe I need to UPDATE my software? Mike, what software version is on your phone?

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    Same version as yours. I plan on doing the update to 1.03 this weekend.

    Doesn't look to be your ROM version...

    Sorry.

    edit: If it makes you feel better, I couldn't get SBC dialup to work on my phone either... Script never worked. Above works without a script. I did have to configure the DNS to match their settings though.

    Mike

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    i've got no problem with my three day old one.

    you may want to put together a script. there's a thread where i reference how to do it.

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    Is there any reason this service works but my ISP which allows me dialup with my DSL account doesn't. It worked fine on the 600. I used the DNS settings on my ISP's website. Is there a standard script that people use to make it work? I didn't need one with my Kyocera 7135 and my Treo 650.

    Thanks

    Marv

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    I just got my Verizon Treo 650 to dial to SBC Yahoo!. I also recently updated my treo to the recently released firmware 1.03. My setup is:

    Username: MyUserName@sbcglobal.net
    Password: MyPassword
    ISP Phone#

    Now the script I got from searching the net:

    Send CR
    Send CR
    Send CR
    Send User ID
    Send CR
    Send Password
    Send CR
    End

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    Thanks jmstr,

    that script made it work. I don't know why I needed it since I never used one on my 7135 or 600.

    I truely appreciate the help

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    Sorry for the noob question here but I am trying to understand how this is helpful. Aren't you only getting dial-up speed by calling this free service.? And are you using this after 9PM and on weekends to avoid minutes charges? Are there other benefits I may be missing? Can you tether the 650 to a laptop and create a dialer for this to run a laptop on free dial-up?

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    1) You avoid paying $49 per month for a Data Plan.
    2) Yes, data speeds are slow, but you only really want to check email, and emergency surfing.
    3) Calls are short, and you simply use your minutes.
    4) Nights and Weekends are free, and most Verizon plans have free long distance.
    5) Yes, you can teather the T650 to a laptop and use it to connect. I've done it - it is SLOW!!

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    has anybody absolutely verified that if you're on the pay as you go data plan (not MOU, but PAYG i think), that you are NOT being billed for dial-up?

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    Search this site - there is already a ton of discussion in this area, and yes, it was confirmed that AS OF NOW, you only get billed for the minutes - not the data.

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    This is great! If I can only get it to work! I keep getting a PPP error.

    Any advice?

    I used the script above.

    Thanks,

    McKay

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    One thing I had to do was not use the @ispname since I was dialing directly into my ISP. Also you might try getting the DNS settings. If you don't know them they should be somewhere on your ISP's website. I did not need them for my Treo 600 or Kyocera 7135 but I did need them for my Treo 650.

    Hope this helps.

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    I have the following software: Treo650-1.03-VZW

    I use #777 like I did with the 7135 except no script ... seems to work fine.

    When I got this Treo a couple of days ago I had to call in to activate it and got a big run-around about having to buy a data plan. After much protest (I can't just hang up and call back like you guys because all of my CS calls go to the same CS center since I have a Verizon phone built in to my GMC truck ... different story for another time) she finally agreed to set it up as MOU, but kept telling me that the "Treo is designed to connect to the internet every two minutes and this will cost you a prohibitive sum of money in minute overages." I proceeded anyways under the consideration that if I get an outrageous bill, I'll just protest, they'll reverse it, and I'll either go back to my 7135 or get a data plan if I love the Treo that much. Well, I've been calling in to #MIN and minutes don't seem to be piling up like she said they would with the every two minute connection story. I will continue to monitor, but I'd say this TREO works just like the 7135, it's just that Verizon doesn't want you to believe it does so they can rake another 50 bones a month out of you.

    Corroboration of my experiences ... anyone?

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    Originally posted by marvw
    One thing I had to do was not use the @ispname since I was dialing directly into my ISP. Also you might try getting the DNS settings. If you don't know them they should be somewhere on your ISP's website. I did not need them for my Treo 600 or Kyocera 7135 but I did need them for my Treo 650.

    Hope this helps.
    Thanks, Marv ~

    I am trying to dialup into the free dialup that is mentioned above. I use the login that jcarolosfox stated. (This is on the website as well.)

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    Originally posted by Peter
    I have the following software: Treo650-1.03-VZW

    I use #777 like I did with the 7135 except no script ... seems to work fine.

    When I got this Treo a couple of days ago I had to call in to activate it and got a big run-around about having to buy a data plan. After much protest (I can't just hang up and call back like you guys because all of my CS calls go to the same CS center since I have a Verizon phone built in to my GMC truck ... different story for another time) she finally agreed to set it up as MOU, but kept telling me that the "Treo is designed to connect to the internet every two minutes and this will cost you a prohibitive sum of money in minute overages." I proceeded anyways under the consideration that if I get an outrageous bill, I'll just protest, they'll reverse it, and I'll either go back to my 7135 or get a data plan if I love the Treo that much. Well, I've been calling in to #MIN and minutes don't seem to be piling up like she said they would with the every two minute connection story. I will continue to monitor, but I'd say this TREO works just like the 7135, it's just that Verizon doesn't want you to believe it does so they can rake another 50 bones a month out of you.

    Corroboration of my experiences ... anyone?
    The SEARCH function is your friend. You are not getting billed by the minutes, you are being billed by the kilobyte of data. This site is FULL of horror stories - including mine - where I got a huge bill after being told I was on MOU, and used #777.

    Continue at your own risk. The reason I found the free dial-up is because these phones ARE NOT just like our old 7135's. (Unfortunately, I continue to get a PPP Timeout error on this dial up too - so, I am stuck with $49 and unlimited data.)

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    Joy in Treo - Land!

    It works! I can dial-up using the free dialup site.

    I had to install the Treo update to get there. That was an adventure in and to itself. *sheesh*

    But - it works!

    Thanks!(and no script needed)

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    jcarlosfox:
    Did you see in another thread that once someone changed his profile and installed the new 1.03 update that he could dial-up whereas he couldn't previously? I think I just read it in the thread about the new update. Kim

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